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Thursday, June 23, 2011

MYTH #15 The Eucharist (communion) is only Symbolic, it is not really Jesus in the host.

In John 6:35-end Jesus is speaking very litterally, so much so in John 6:66 he even lets some of his disciples just walk away, asking if what he said "Does this shock you?"

In fact St. Paul says that you can die if you approach the bread and the cup in an unworthy manner.

In 1Corinthians 11:27-29 states that if you approach the bread and the cup in an unworthy manner you become guilty of Christs death and could being death to yourself.

1Corinthians 11:27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup.29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.

So if the Eucharist is only a symbol how does a symbol have power to pronounce judgment and condemnation for disrespecting a piece of bread and a chalice of wine?
Based on this it would seem that those who believe the Eucharist is only a symobol may be worshiping a false god.

I know in Greek and Roman Mythology this occurs but as Christians we are bound to the 10 commandments of having no God other than God.

The only way 1Corinthians 11:27-29 make sense is if the bread and the wine are truly Christ.

In addition is there a single verse that states the Eucharist is only a symbol.


JMMR said...

“Jesus therefore said to them, Amen, amen I say to you, Unless you eat (φάγητε | phago) the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth (τρώγων | trogo) my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath life everlasting: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh, is meat in deed: and my blood is drink in deed: He that eateth (τρώγων | trogo) my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. As the living father hath sent me, and live by the father: and he that eateth (τρώγων | trogo) me, the same also shall live by me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat (ἔφαγον | (e)phago) Manna, and died. He that eateth (τρώγων | trogo) this bread, shall live for ever.” (John 6, 53-58).

Throughout the sacred Scriptures we find many examples of where the English does not render the complete and full meaning of the Greek. This is especially true in the Greek word “trogo” (τρώγων) found in John Chapter six. The word trogo (τρώγων) is translated in most English versions of the Bible as simply “eat” or “eateth.” When we examine the Greek meaning of the word, we realize that it is a very descriptive word, and is more accurately rendered in the concept of aggressively and loudly munching, gnawing and chewing, as a animal would eat.

The inspired Apostle John specifically chose to use this highly descriptive word, rather than the generally used Greek words “esthio” (ἐσθίω,v) or “phago”(ἔφαγον) (both of which simply mean to eat), for a reason. St. John was attempting to drive home the thought of a very real and physical eating of actual flesh. His inspired word usage clearly shows that Christ was not speaking figuratively, Christ was in fact commanding his listeners to gnaw and chew his flesh. The Jews understood that Christ was being literal, and were disgusted at the thought (vs.52), many of Christ's own disciples were so shocked and dismayed by his words that they left him (v.66).

53εἶπεν οὖν αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς, Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, ἐὰν μὴ φάγητε (phago) τὴν σάρκα τοῦ υἱοῦ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου καὶ πίητε αὐτοῦ τὸ αἷμα, οὐκ ἔχετε ζωὴν ἐν ἑαυτοῖς. 54ὁ τρώγων (trogo) μου τὴν σάρκα καὶ πίνων μου τὸ αἷμα ἔχει ζωὴν αἰώνιον, κἀγὼ ἀναστήσω αὐτὸν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ ἡμέρᾳ: 55ἡ γὰρ σάρξ μου ἀληθής ἐστιν βρῶσις, καὶ τὸ αἷμά μου ἀληθής ἐστιν πόσις. 56ὁ τρώγων (trogo) μου τὴν σάρκα καὶ πίνων μου τὸ αἷμα ἐν ἐμοὶ μένει κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτῷ. 57καθὼς ἀπέστειλέν με ὁ ζῶν πατὴρ κἀγὼ ζῶ διὰ τὸν πατέρα, καὶ ὁ τρώγων (trogo) με κἀκεῖνος ζήσει δι' ἐμέ. 58οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἄρτος ὁ ἐξ οὐρανοῦ καταβάς, οὐ καθὼς ἔφαγον ([e]phago) οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἀπέθανον: ὁ τρώγων (trogo) τοῦτον τὸν ἄρτον ζήσει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα. 59Ταῦτα εἶπεν ἐν συναγωγῇ διδάσκων ἐν Καφαρναούμ.

Anonymous said...

Can blood borne diseases such Aids be transmitted through the communion wine/blood? If so what precautions do priests take to prevent this?

XAndrewX said...

I dont not believe there is a single instance of transfer of disease from Catholic Communion.