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Thursday, June 23, 2011

MYTH #13 Catholics need to submerge not sprinkle when they baptize baptism isnt even required

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

1Peter 3:20 Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water. 21 Whereunto baptism being of the like form, now saveth you also: not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the examination of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Ezechiel 36:25 "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.

26 "Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.. 27 "I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.

Acts 2:38 But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? Rise up, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, invoking his name.

1Corinthians 12:13 For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free; and in one Spirit we have all been made to drink.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.

I can not find 1 verse that says you can be saved without being Baptized or that you must be submerged.


Carl said...
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XAndrewX said...

Sorry, again your unwillingness to accept the scripture as truth doesnt make it untrue, it simply means you refuse to accept it.

Ezechiel 36:25 says WATER right in it.

As a JW you are dangerously wandering away from scripture, you have a verse that says God authorized John the Baptist to baptize all those people "before" Jesus told him to baptize him?

Other wise you are speculating and making statements not found in scripture.

y2kscholar said...

Matthew 3:16 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him,[a] and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him;

The literal meaning of 'baptism' in the Greek language was: 'TO COVER WITH FLUID' or 'TO STAIN AS WITH A DYE'. The word 'baptism' comes from the Greek and was used to describe the process of dying clothing which naturally required 'full immersion' to be effective.

'baptisma' is the Greek word that is translated 'baptism' in the following references in our English Bibles: (Romans 6:4;Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; 1 Peter 3:21; Matthew 3:7; Acts 1:22, 10:37, 13:24, 18:25, 19:3-4)

'bapto' is the root word for 'baptisma' meaning 'to dip'.

'baptiso' is the Greek word that is translated 'baptise' or 'baptised' in English and originally described the dying of clothing, and the necessity for full immersion: (Acts 1:5, 8:16, 22:16; Galatians 3:27; Acts 2:38-41; Acts 8:12-13, 36-38, 9:18, Acts 10:47,48, 16:15)